Surname
Murs (de)
Given Name
Julien
Variant Name
Julianus
Muris (de)
Date of death
1365
Role
Employee of a court chapel (musician)
Master of choirboys
Musician
Active period
1347 - 1365
Workplace
Paris
Rouen
Institution
Cathédrale de Rouen
Cathédrale Notre-Dame de Paris
Cour royale de France
Sainte-Chapelle de Paris
Université de Paris
Biography
Robert Gane cite Julien de Murs comme appartenant à la fois au chapitre de Notre Dame de Paris et à la Sainte-Chapelle et en donne une notice prosopographique (Gane & Billot 1999 p. 150, 359 notice n° 471). Originaire du diocèse de Lisieux, Julien de Murs meurt en 1365. Il est vraisemblablement parent de Jean de Murs, mathématicien et astronome, ami de Philippe de Vitry.
• Paris : Université. Maître ès Arts ; En décembre 1350, il est recteur de l’Université de Paris (Boulay 1673 , t. IV, p. 973)
• Autres bénéfices : 1358 : chanoine de Beauvais et d’Evreux.
• Paris : Cathédrale. 1360 : chanoine de Paris
• Paris : Sainte-Chapelle. 1347-1354 : Maître Julien de Murs est maître de grammaire des enfants et donc comptable de la maîtrise au moins de 1347 à 1354. En effet, on trouve dans les comptes de 1347 à 1349, de 1352 et de 1354 les articles suivant :
« Magister Julianus de Muris doctor puerorum capelle regalis Parisiensis pro denariis sibi debitis pro finibus compotorum suorum de expensis dictorum puerorum, a 16e decembris 1347 usque ad 15e decembris 1348 sutorum ad omnes sanctos tunc currentes, redditorum 17 Januarii tunc, de summa 62 l. 3 s. 8 d. ob. p. 20 l. p., comp. per Perrinam de Ambianis in duplicibus ut supra, super Regem ».
« Magister Julianus de Muris doctor puerorum capelle regalis Parisiensis, pro denariis sibi traditis pro expensis et aliis necessitabus dictorum puerorum ministrandum, per ejus litteram recognitoriam datam 24e hujus mensis [avril 1349], 40 1. p. ». (Brenet 1910 p. 21, 22 citant Viard 1900 art. 875 et 987).
Pour 1352, Elizabeth Lalou a retrouvé un fragment de comptes (Lalou 1986 p. 149, VIIIe fragment) :
« Magister Julianus de Muris doctor p(/uerorum capelle regalis Parisiensis) aliis donis alias sibi factis per litteras d(omini)/ »
Julien de Murs était dans les mêmes fonctions en 1354 et donnait, comme maître des enfants de la chapelle du palais, quittance d'une somme de 20 1. « pour leur feste et gieu des Innocents » (Brenet 1910 p. 21, 22 citant Demay 1886 t. II, p. 697, n° 6612).
• France, cour de : (dauphin Charles, duc de Normandie). Secrétaire du futur Charles V, duc de Normandie de 1355 à 1364.
• Rouen : Cathédrale. 1365 : Un Julianus de Muris appartient en cette année 1365 au chapitre de la cathédrale de Rouen (Brenet 1910 p. 21, 22 citant FEG II, S. 147 ff). Il s’agit vraisemblablement du même personnage.
Robert Gane donne pour bibliographie : F-AN, LL 106 B, p. 297, le registre capitulaire de Notre-Dame de 1362 à 1364 ; Chartul., II p. 640 et III p. 4 n. 1, 6, 7 n. 2.
VOIR New Sources for the Biography of Johannes de Muris Lawrence Gushee Journal of the American Musicological Society, Vol. 22, No. 1 (Spring, 1969), pp. 3-26, à la page 23
Especially striking is an elaborate monogram constructed around the legible name "Julianus" (see Plate III). This very monogram is also to be found in a collection of miscellaneous parchment slips at the Bibli- otheque nationale which represent in many cases remnants of the ar- chives of the 14th-century Chambre des comptes. In that collection are a money order from Charles V, dated at Paris, 27 December 1364, for "nostre ame et feal clerc et secretaire Maistre Julian des Murs"; and a receipt from Julian des Murs, dated io March 1365. At the end of the latter document is the statement "signees de mon saign [=signe] de notaire," along with the monogram of the British Museum MS.44 One can scarcely avoid the conclusion that Julian des Murs was a relative of Johannes de Muris, and that the British Museum MS was given to or inherited by him.45 The possibility that the two men are closely related becomes close to a certainty when one discovers that Jul- ian was also from the diocese of Lisieux.46 His career is not without interest and, indeed, Andre Pirro has drawn attention to some of his activities.47 Although I have assembled a fair amount of documentary evidence bearing on Julian's varied life as rector of the University of Paris, doctor puerorum capelle regalis, canon of Notre-Dame de Paris, secretary to Charles V both before and after his coronation, and finally as cure of Saint Maclou in Rouen (where he died in 1368) it would be out of place here.48 The last contribution I would like to offer towards
One implication of Pirro's discussion should be questioned, namely, that Julian was music master of the boys' choir of the Sainte-Chapelle. It is perfectly true that between 1348 and 1354 he is frequently listed in the royal accounts as "maistre et gouverneur des enffans de la Sainte-Chapelle Royale a Paris" (J. Viard, Les journaux du tresor de Philippe VI de Valois [Paris, 1899] from Paris, A.N., KK 6). But in a very detailed set of regulations for the conduct of the choir boys and their masters from around 1350 (published by M. Brenet, Les musiciens de la Sainte-Chapelle du Palais [Paris, 91rol) it appears that there were two masters, one for "grammar" and one for music. The former was also the financial officer of the organization, which was precisely Julian's function on many occasions.
VIDIER 1901
ERRATUM.
Page 241, note i, et page 242, ligne 9, au lieu de : Jean des Murs, /i>ef :
Julien des Murs.
• Paris : Université. Maître ès Arts ; En décembre 1350, il est recteur de l’Université de Paris (Boulay 1673 , t. IV, p. 973)
• Autres bénéfices : 1358 : chanoine de Beauvais et d’Evreux.
• Paris : Cathédrale. 1360 : chanoine de Paris
• Paris : Sainte-Chapelle. 1347-1354 : Maître Julien de Murs est maître de grammaire des enfants et donc comptable de la maîtrise au moins de 1347 à 1354. En effet, on trouve dans les comptes de 1347 à 1349, de 1352 et de 1354 les articles suivant :
« Magister Julianus de Muris doctor puerorum capelle regalis Parisiensis pro denariis sibi debitis pro finibus compotorum suorum de expensis dictorum puerorum, a 16e decembris 1347 usque ad 15e decembris 1348 sutorum ad omnes sanctos tunc currentes, redditorum 17 Januarii tunc, de summa 62 l. 3 s. 8 d. ob. p. 20 l. p., comp. per Perrinam de Ambianis in duplicibus ut supra, super Regem ».
« Magister Julianus de Muris doctor puerorum capelle regalis Parisiensis, pro denariis sibi traditis pro expensis et aliis necessitabus dictorum puerorum ministrandum, per ejus litteram recognitoriam datam 24e hujus mensis [avril 1349], 40 1. p. ». (Brenet 1910 p. 21, 22 citant Viard 1900 art. 875 et 987).
Pour 1352, Elizabeth Lalou a retrouvé un fragment de comptes (Lalou 1986 p. 149, VIIIe fragment) :
« Magister Julianus de Muris doctor p(/uerorum capelle regalis Parisiensis) aliis donis alias sibi factis per litteras d(omini)/ »
Julien de Murs était dans les mêmes fonctions en 1354 et donnait, comme maître des enfants de la chapelle du palais, quittance d'une somme de 20 1. « pour leur feste et gieu des Innocents » (Brenet 1910 p. 21, 22 citant Demay 1886 t. II, p. 697, n° 6612).
• France, cour de : (dauphin Charles, duc de Normandie). Secrétaire du futur Charles V, duc de Normandie de 1355 à 1364.
• Rouen : Cathédrale. 1365 : Un Julianus de Muris appartient en cette année 1365 au chapitre de la cathédrale de Rouen (Brenet 1910 p. 21, 22 citant FEG II, S. 147 ff). Il s’agit vraisemblablement du même personnage.
Robert Gane donne pour bibliographie : F-AN, LL 106 B, p. 297, le registre capitulaire de Notre-Dame de 1362 à 1364 ; Chartul., II p. 640 et III p. 4 n. 1, 6, 7 n. 2.
VOIR New Sources for the Biography of Johannes de Muris Lawrence Gushee Journal of the American Musicological Society, Vol. 22, No. 1 (Spring, 1969), pp. 3-26, à la page 23
Especially striking is an elaborate monogram constructed around the legible name "Julianus" (see Plate III). This very monogram is also to be found in a collection of miscellaneous parchment slips at the Bibli- otheque nationale which represent in many cases remnants of the ar- chives of the 14th-century Chambre des comptes. In that collection are a money order from Charles V, dated at Paris, 27 December 1364, for "nostre ame et feal clerc et secretaire Maistre Julian des Murs"; and a receipt from Julian des Murs, dated io March 1365. At the end of the latter document is the statement "signees de mon saign [=signe] de notaire," along with the monogram of the British Museum MS.44 One can scarcely avoid the conclusion that Julian des Murs was a relative of Johannes de Muris, and that the British Museum MS was given to or inherited by him.45 The possibility that the two men are closely related becomes close to a certainty when one discovers that Jul- ian was also from the diocese of Lisieux.46 His career is not without interest and, indeed, Andre Pirro has drawn attention to some of his activities.47 Although I have assembled a fair amount of documentary evidence bearing on Julian's varied life as rector of the University of Paris, doctor puerorum capelle regalis, canon of Notre-Dame de Paris, secretary to Charles V both before and after his coronation, and finally as cure of Saint Maclou in Rouen (where he died in 1368) it would be out of place here.48 The last contribution I would like to offer towards
One implication of Pirro's discussion should be questioned, namely, that Julian was music master of the boys' choir of the Sainte-Chapelle. It is perfectly true that between 1348 and 1354 he is frequently listed in the royal accounts as "maistre et gouverneur des enffans de la Sainte-Chapelle Royale a Paris" (J. Viard, Les journaux du tresor de Philippe VI de Valois [Paris, 1899] from Paris, A.N., KK 6). But in a very detailed set of regulations for the conduct of the choir boys and their masters from around 1350 (published by M. Brenet, Les musiciens de la Sainte-Chapelle du Palais [Paris, 91rol) it appears that there were two masters, one for "grammar" and one for music. The former was also the financial officer of the organization, which was precisely Julian's function on many occasions.
VIDIER 1901
ERRATUM.
Page 241, note i, et page 242, ligne 9, au lieu de : Jean des Murs, /i>ef :
Julien des Murs.
Bibliography
Brenet 1910
Gane & Billot 1999
Viard 1900